Katie Dermand: I have to shop at a particular hat store. Because my head is not really … I can’t wear.
Lauren God: What is this store called?
Katie Dermand: I can’t wear ordinary hats.
Lauren God: Is it called boblites?
Katie Dermand: No, I’m going to find it. This is from Odjob hats. The last hat I bought was called the Big Running Hat. Just big running hats.
Lauren God: Do you even have a big walking hats?
Katie Dermand: Maybe perhaps
Lauren God: Oh
Michael Calver: Oh, that’s too much.
Lauren God: Okay
Michael Calver: Should we enter it?
Katie Dermand: Let’s do.
Lauren God: Let’s do.
Michael Calver: It’s wired The Inkni ValleyA show about the people of the Silicon, power and influence. Today, we are talking about the Trump administration’s policies and policies about immigration that these policies have an effect on the tech industry. Ever since one of the current administration’s immigration policy has been abolished, the asylum process was closed, so the foreign enemy Act was requested to deport hundreds of people, and the citizenship of birthright is being challenged in the US Supreme Court. Visa examination has increased. Wired recently, how the H-1B visa application process is becoming more and more dissatisfied, and last week the administration said it would begin to cancel the visa of some Chinese students who are currently studying in US schools. Therefore, today we will dive the effects that can lead to these changes from the talent pipeline to the tech industry to future innovations. I am the director of Consumer Tech and Culture in Michael Calver, wired here.
Lauren God: I am Lauren God. I am a senior representative in the wired.
Katie Dermand: And I am Katie Dermand, who is the World Wired Director.
Michael Calver: I want to start to start how the Trump administration is handling students’ visas. Just last week, Foreign Secretary Marco Rubio announced that the administration would “aggressively” for Chinese students “aggressively”. The Foreign Ministry said it would focus on students from critical sectors and those with relations with the Chinese Communist Party, but also that it would generally increase the board’s scrutiny. The ambiguity of these guidelines has sent students, parents and universities to the emotional tail spin. What do we make from these latest developments?
Lauren God: So there were actually two instructions that went out last week and I am sure we are going to hear more, but I think they are both noticeable. The first was that a instruction was sent to US embassies around the world to stop any new interview for a student and a visa visa, and it included F, M and JA visas until further information. And all the idea was that it was preparing to expand social media screening and scrutiny. So primarily the Department of State is looking very closely at the online activity, social media activity, and consider that as part of the interview process when they are applying for a visa to the United States. It was already a part of the application process, but now it is being extended. We don’t really know what that means. The second was a visa cancellation for Chinese students, as you mentioned, Mike. And I really think what it does add another tool in the current Cold War that we are with China, whether with revenue or such actions, it is clear that the current administration wants to hold the upper hand. And what we have reported in the wired is that if it continues and the courts allow it, it will have a significant impact on higher education as almost a quarter of the population of international students in the United States is from China. And also, this is something I think many people do not realize, I personally did not realize unless I start to research it further, international students often come to the United States for school, which helps them to help these universities and help them to help them with some of their ways. I think it is usually a dangerous area to start targeting students under a particular nationality for these alleged national security reasons. There are questions about how effective it is, but also how it can potentially weaken the US technology sector in a long time.
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